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	<title>Comments on: What is a good center fire rifle for a beginning rifle hunter?</title>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you won&#039;t be going after anything bigger/thicker-skinned than deer, a 260Rem. would be fine. It&#039;s a 308Win. case necked down to 260. Why not a 243Win. which is also a 308 case? The heaviest bullet available for 243 is 100 gr. , which is really not adequate for deer. Yes, a bunch of people have killed deer w/ a 243 but shot placement is critical &amp; i question whether it&#039;s a humane kill.
Anyway, both are short action rifles so you can get a reduced weight/overall size rifle. Of course, you&#039;ll also want a good scope so you might want to look at a Savage Arms bolt action or a CZ bolt action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you won&#8217;t be going after anything bigger/thicker-skinned than deer, a 260Rem. would be fine. It&#8217;s a 308Win. case necked down to 260. Why not a 243Win. which is also a 308 case? The heaviest bullet available for 243 is 100 gr. , which is really not adequate for deer. Yes, a bunch of people have killed deer w/ a 243 but shot placement is critical &#038; i question whether it&#8217;s a humane kill.<br />
Anyway, both are short action rifles so you can get a reduced weight/overall size rifle. Of course, you&#8217;ll also want a good scope so you might want to look at a Savage Arms bolt action or a CZ bolt action.</p>
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		<title>By: Maga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned a lever action .30/30, which is a GREAT rifle and what I started with.  Problem is the ammo is a little &quot;cold&quot; and doesn&#039;t hold velocity too well past 150 yards, though some new loads have been developed lately that carry downrange flatter and faster at the expense of bullet weight.  If you&#039;re going to hunt woods/brush and don&#039;t expect to shoot much past 100 yards, it&#039;s a perfect beginners rifle and cartridge.   If, however, you want a flatter, more accurate round and rifle, look into Stevens rifles, they are an entry-level product line by Savage.  You can get into an excellent, accurate, dead-on brand new rifle for around $300 depending what caliber and options you want with a Stevens.  Only drawback is that most Stevens rifles don&#039;t have any iron sights, just taps for mounting optics.  

For a deer round, other than the .30/30 already mentioned, I like the .308 and 270 just fine - though the 270 is not as hard-hitting as I&#039;d prefer for a beginning shooter, just because the chance of a  buck running off bleeding and suffering with a light round is a lot higher.  7wsm is pretty good too, just not cheap to feed.  

Someone else mentioned the Mosin-Nagant rifles.  Those are PLENTY hard hitting, but not really a beginner&#039;s rifle.  They are like the .30/06 and British .303 - plenty enough punch, but they kick like hell and make enough noise to wake the dead.  Not to mention, finding a Mosin in decent shape isn&#039;t exactly a given.  Old milsurps like Enfields and Mosins often need some love and care before being good shooters, and then are heavy enough to be a problem trucking through the brush - especially when you could have a nice Stevens with a plastic stock at a third the weight, or nice lever rifle which weighs about halfway between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned a lever action .30/30, which is a GREAT rifle and what I started with.  Problem is the ammo is a little &#8220;cold&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t hold velocity too well past 150 yards, though some new loads have been developed lately that carry downrange flatter and faster at the expense of bullet weight.  If you&#8217;re going to hunt woods/brush and don&#8217;t expect to shoot much past 100 yards, it&#8217;s a perfect beginners rifle and cartridge.   If, however, you want a flatter, more accurate round and rifle, look into Stevens rifles, they are an entry-level product line by Savage.  You can get into an excellent, accurate, dead-on brand new rifle for around $300 depending what caliber and options you want with a Stevens.  Only drawback is that most Stevens rifles don&#8217;t have any iron sights, just taps for mounting optics.  </p>
<p>For a deer round, other than the .30/30 already mentioned, I like the .308 and 270 just fine &#8211; though the 270 is not as hard-hitting as I&#8217;d prefer for a beginning shooter, just because the chance of a  buck running off bleeding and suffering with a light round is a lot higher.  7wsm is pretty good too, just not cheap to feed.  </p>
<p>Someone else mentioned the Mosin-Nagant rifles.  Those are PLENTY hard hitting, but not really a beginner&#8217;s rifle.  They are like the .30/06 and British .303 &#8211; plenty enough punch, but they kick like hell and make enough noise to wake the dead.  Not to mention, finding a Mosin in decent shape isn&#8217;t exactly a given.  Old milsurps like Enfields and Mosins often need some love and care before being good shooters, and then are heavy enough to be a problem trucking through the brush &#8211; especially when you could have a nice Stevens with a plastic stock at a third the weight, or nice lever rifle which weighs about halfway between.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Thecow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Thecow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 25-06.Can be bought new for around $800 with a good scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 25-06.Can be bought new for around $800 with a good scope.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlin lever action .30-30.  If you get good with it, you can master any other firearm.  If you&#039;re dead set on a bolt action, then go .308 or .270.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlin lever action .30-30.  If you get good with it, you can master any other firearm.  If you&#8217;re dead set on a bolt action, then go .308 or .270.</p>
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		<title>By: wana bigger bike</title>
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		<dc:creator>wana bigger bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant beat a .243.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant beat a .243.</p>
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		<title>By: Derick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A slug fired from a shotgun is a very heavy hitter but it kicks for way more than its worth
a center fire rifle shoots flatter and more accurately with plenty of punch to drop the deer.

cartridges

If you are a kid I would start out with a 243 but you have to be very confident with your shot placement within 200 yards because the 243 isn&#039;t a heavy hitter. 

Next step up is a 270 a great deer cartridge as long as you are fairly confident with your shot placement

lastly is the 308 my personal favorite a 308 will knock down most deer with a single shot 

but with all of these the best policy is to take your time with your first shot and then continue to put shots at the vital range till the deer goes down. the recoil is very manageable for my 140 lbs frame

rifles

vanguard synthetic package for 750 $ you get a gun guaranteed to shoot 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards an a scope with rings, a sling ,and a gun case I just love the deal

a browning a bolt is close to the top of your price range with a scope and case and scope rings 

savage arms edge xp a great rifle that comes with a bore sighted scope and a box mag for 400 $

final verdict is an edge xp in 308 win  but feel free to talk to your local gun store owner

also google savage arms, weatherby, browning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A slug fired from a shotgun is a very heavy hitter but it kicks for way more than its worth<br />
a center fire rifle shoots flatter and more accurately with plenty of punch to drop the deer.</p>
<p>cartridges</p>
<p>If you are a kid I would start out with a 243 but you have to be very confident with your shot placement within 200 yards because the 243 isn&#8217;t a heavy hitter. </p>
<p>Next step up is a 270 a great deer cartridge as long as you are fairly confident with your shot placement</p>
<p>lastly is the 308 my personal favorite a 308 will knock down most deer with a single shot </p>
<p>but with all of these the best policy is to take your time with your first shot and then continue to put shots at the vital range till the deer goes down. the recoil is very manageable for my 140 lbs frame</p>
<p>rifles</p>
<p>vanguard synthetic package for 750 $ you get a gun guaranteed to shoot 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards an a scope with rings, a sling ,and a gun case I just love the deal</p>
<p>a browning a bolt is close to the top of your price range with a scope and case and scope rings </p>
<p>savage arms edge xp a great rifle that comes with a bore sighted scope and a box mag for 400 $</p>
<p>final verdict is an edge xp in 308 win  but feel free to talk to your local gun store owner</p>
<p>also google savage arms, weatherby, browning</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosin 91/30 if you are into history and like lugging around an old warhorse to smite bambi.  If you want a plain jane hunting rifle, get a remington model 700 in .308.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosin 91/30 if you are into history and like lugging around an old warhorse to smite bambi.  If you want a plain jane hunting rifle, get a remington model 700 in .308.</p>
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		<title>By: Xxzz Xxyyzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xxzz Xxyyzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.243 or .308 will take care of all of that, and you can shoot all day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.243 or .308 will take care of all of that, and you can shoot all day</p>
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		<title>By: Going Ballistic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Ballistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosin Nagant 91/30.</description>
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		<title>By: Tristan Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont now wat a centerfire gun is but an airsoft gun is cooler cuz u can shot people with it i thin u shud got a 110 fps its 40$ or you can got on for 40 ftt at 17.37293h2743m whcih makes it cool  cuz it sounds like a real guin person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont now wat a centerfire gun is but an airsoft gun is cooler cuz u can shot people with it i thin u shud got a 110 fps its 40$ or you can got on for 40 ftt at 17.37293h2743m whcih makes it cool  cuz it sounds like a real guin person</p>
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