Moisture Barriers
by admin on Friday, July 16th, 2010 | 25 Comments
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Trying to learn how to stay warm down to -30. The plastic bag trick is probably good. In rubber Bunny Boots you can sweat but because the inslation is isolated from the foot , it continues to keep you warm even though you are sweating inside the boots. They say you can bust though ice, fill up the boot and it will still warm up. Just dump the water and keep going. Awesome boots. The same princple can help a bag to retain it’s insulative properties. Moisture is a big problem in a bag.
I don’t understand how the pillow problem is handled. Without a good solution, I will have a wicked neck ache in the morning.
I realize that this may be considered common knowledge but unless you use lighters in the cold a lot like I do(I’m Canadian and a smoker) it may not occur to you. Itcould leave you cold and wet with no fire becauseyou think your lighter is dead.
Hi Dave, a tip I think worth mentioning to your viewers is that if you only have a disposable lighter and it’s cold out , it may be hard to get it to work(pretty scary). It’s as if the lighter is out of fuel but actually the fuel is just cold and has contracted, therefore the gas pressure has dropped. Just warm the lighter in your hand and it will work. Google “Charle’s law” for a full explanation. And don’t give up on the lighter. Thanks for the vids Dave,they’re great.
-NL Hunter
Thanks Wolf…cat won’t work but the other just might.
wondering why you didn’t baton some wood to get into the dry stuff for yr fire. great vids Dave learning right beside you man. thanks
Hi sean (watch your vids too
I think my blanket is also too small to really wrap in diagonally. Last time I just tried lying on the ends, that worked fine (but feet still popping out 
. Thanx!
I’ve tried that but the feet still pop out
@marcjacobi
Wrap yourself in it diagonally. Tuck the bottom corner up over your feet then wrap the two side corners around you. You should end up with two layers of wool all round your body and your feet should not poke out the bottom.
Logically with that setup you can stay good and warm with your layers. Theoretically with an additional two you’re almost set for winter. I’ll have to try that because I’ve trying to avoid getting a 0-degree sleeping bag due to the space it takes up.
Thanks Dave… also, is that a wood axe?
Dave can you talk a little more about the fire pit in the shelter as far as where the smoke goes. Does it just seep out or is there a hole for it to escape. Sorry if you’ve already been over this as I haven’t seen all the videos yet. Keep on keepin on.
spider shelter or something like that
what is the shelter video called i wanna watch it
Personally, I have found the method successful in temperatures around 30 F and below. The big thing that most people dont realize is that their sleeping gear will inevitably become wet from insensible sweat if they are outdoors for long periods of time—such might be the case in a long term self-reliant situation. But if a person is outdoors for only one or two days, theres really no problem with insensible sweat.
I was in Algonquin Park, Ontario this summer and it just rained and rained and everything was soaked for days. I found that getting a great fire going with wet wood requires all sorts of prep. Tiny kindling, followed by slightly bigger and then bigger kindling (and so on) will eventually build up a sustainable hot fire that will burn even wet wood. But, if you don’t prep really well you just end up with a fire that keeps dying. Prep prep prep…
i agree with the hoodie idea but he cant make any more pathfinder materials
i love your videos SO MUCH! you always put so much effort into your videos and so much care into what you do that i have to always give you 5/5. i also would love to come camping with you because we are both on the same page with like wilderness survival. you should make hoodies with the pathfinder logo on them.
Oh forgot: the drum liner is not such a good idea in my book. Would sooner stuff wet (not too wet
leaves under my outer layer of clothes. They will dry during the night and the moisture will evaporate away from your body.
BTW: do you use any special way to wrap yourself in your wool blanket? My feet always keep poking out and I’d be tucking them in 2-3 times a night.
I really appreciate the effort you put into these videos, Dave. Thanx very much.
Dave, a garbage bag as a personal moisture barrier is a powerful idea! I am going to use that trick next time I am out in the woods. It is worth noting that cheap e-blankets work by the same principle. Sealed off they are warm but if you open it up so you don’t get sweaty you will be cold. Thanks for the great video!
Couple of things I noticed. You’ve already said that you needed a stash of fire wood in the shelter. Another thing is that you can dry out your fire wood around an already burning fire. So baby sitting is kept to a minimum. Also the space blanked stuck out of the shelter. If you really have bad weather that will actually get wet and guide the water to your bed. So tuck it back in/under once you lay in your bed.
Get a cat or sprinkle urine from a predator animal around.
Dave you wear a Wick-a-way shirt to remove the moisture away from your body. Dosnt putting a plasic bag over you defeat that by keeping the moisture locked in the fabric? I havent tried your method but it seems like that would drop your body temp, and keep you damp.
thank Dave for the infor!
Thanks for the excellent feedback!
It’s called Tyvex, and if he put it on the outside of the shelter it might work tarp style, but like others have stated, it could melt if exposed to fire! Plus the garbage bag is sealed on the edges. Tyvex would be just in a single sheet he would have to use like the wool blanket and wouldn’t be able to use the same way under a shirt. Tyvex does make a very nice super lightweight tarp though and you can buy sheets of it on ebay for about $1.75 a foot.
Thats what I was wondering, you had a mouse. We had big a** Norwegian rats.
Smoking got rid of the critters but not their dropping’s which were everywhere.
We had to destroy the shelter the droppings are diseased laden. Is there anything else we could have done to protect the shelter while we were away?