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Is a 1,000 fps pellet gun more powerful then a .22 caliber rifle?
ByIm trying to convince my dad that to let me get a pellet gun that goes about 1,000 fps and i told him that its not nearly as powerful as the .22 caliber rifle that i use when i go hunting with a 22 year old friend of his. but i’m not really sure if it was true or not and i just told him that to try to put his mind at ease and i was just wondering if it was true.
26 Comments
March 19th, 2010 at 8:52 am
i asked my dad who is a hunter and he said no
March 19th, 2010 at 9:30 am
no. 22s are 1200 fps. i have a 1000 fps pellet rifle its pretty cool.
March 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
no
March 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
no
March 19th, 2010 at 11:47 am
there’s always a possibility
March 19th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
great
March 19th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
no
March 19th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Not at all. A regular .22 goes about 1200 fps. Even if it went a bit slower than the pellet, it weighs much more and is more shaped for penetration, so it would still have more power.
March 19th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
No it is not. I have a .22 and a Beeman 1,000 fps rifles. The pellet gun is not nearly as powerful as the 22. The .22 goes faster and the bullet has a lot more mass so it has greater penetration. But the pellet gun is soo much fun to shoot, it has a lot better accuracy than I thought it would. If you want, e-mail me and I will show you the exact pellet gun I have (rmandala14@yahoo.com). I love it!
March 19th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
the pellet might be faster leaving the barrel, but the bullet is alot more bigger hunk of lead. So the bullet will do alot more damage
March 19th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
There are several kinds, but I assume you mean a rimfire .22 caliber rifle.
There’s only been one successful rimfire rifle in the last 100 years, and its velocity is 2,020 feet per second, give or take a few depending on outside factors.
March 19th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
I could answer your question if I had more information.
We need to asses the momentum of each projectile.
The momentum is mass times velocity
We need the mass of each projectile and the velocity of each (exactly). We then could compare the two momentum’s.
March 19th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
That really depends on the muzzle velocity of your .22 rifle. It would not be surprising if your .22 is less than 1000 fps. However velocity and power are two different things. Power relates to its velocity AND mass. Its easier to think about the kinetic energy of the rounds as they are traveling down range, which is 1/2mv^2. This means that mass does matter, but not nearly as much as the velocity, which is squared. But you should really be interested in convincing your parents that you would never use a pellet gun in an unsafe or irresponsible manner, just like you would never misuse a .22 rifle.
March 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
no, but is really close, my pellet gun is capable of taking out chipmunks at 50 yards. it takes skill. i have made some 75 yard 22. shots on a 6″ by 6″ cardboard box
March 19th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
A .22 is a lot more powerful than the pellet gun because the .22 bullet goes faster and weighs more. You told your dad the truth but you did it for the wrong reason. Work on that so he will trust you…
March 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
It depends on the gun. Well actually it depends on the weight of the pellet that is being fired and the .22 cartridge you’re comparing it to. For example:
.177 caliber, 8 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 17.8 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.22 caliber, 14 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 31.1 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.22 caliber, 32 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 71.1 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.25 caliber, 30 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 66.6 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.25 caliber, 61 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 135.5 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
9mm caliber, 100 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 222.1 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.45 caliber, 230 grain pellet @ 1000 fps = 510.8 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
For a comparison with various .22 cartridges I looked at several of CCI’s .22 rimfire offerings.
.22 LR CCI Stinger (hyper-velocity, 32 grain bullet) – 191 ft-lbs of muzzle energy).
.22 LR CCI Minimag (high-velocity, 40 grain bullet) – 135 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.22 LR Standard Velocity (40 grain bullet) – 102 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
.22 Short (29 grain bullet) – 75 ft-lbs of muzzle energy (nominally in a gun chambered solely in .22 short)
.22 CB Short (29 grain bullet) -32 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
In general most .177 and .22 caliber airguns will be less powerful than a .22LR cartridge. Odds are you were talking about a .177 caliber pellet gun, like say the Gamo Big Cat, RWS 34, or Crosman Phantom. If that’s the case, then you are clearly correct since those guns top out around 15-17 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, or about 1/10th the power of a .22LR high-velocity round. If your’e talking about a gun like the Airforce Condor, Shinsung Career III 707, or Sumatra 2500, then its a lot less clear since those guns can come pretty close to matching a .22 short’s muzzle energy, but are still less powerful than a .22 LR (they’ve got about 1/3 to 1/2 the power of a .22 LR high-velocity round). If you start getting into the big bore airguns… Those are an entirely different ballgame.
One final thing… even if the airgun you want delivers less than 20 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, hell even if it delivers less than 10 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, it is still capable of seriously injuring or killing a person so you need to be careful with it. There’s a reason that companies like Crosman and Daisy put a label on all their airguns saying that they aren’t toys and that misuse or careless use can cause serious injury or death. The reason is that every year a number of people die because they’re hit with airgun pellets. So even if it is an airgun, you still have to be careful and follow the rules for safe gun handling.
March 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
The pellet rifle is much weaker. A .22 lr round will travel a little faster than 1200fps (in some cases more, depending on the round). That being said, the .22 lr round has a lot more knockdown power (since the .22 lr bullet is heavier than the pellet). If you do get the pellet gun, always make sure that you practice common sense safety (don’t point it at anyone, unload it when you aren’t using it, etc). People have died from wounds produced by pellet guns, so use it wisely.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
no i have 3 .22 cal guns ones a marlin bolt action magnum one is a remington semi auto and one pistol the pistol is 950 fps and the marlin is 2200 fps the semi is 1250 fps
March 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
It may seem so, but the bb is just a small one. Dont go to NJ with that, they think its a gun. I know the hard way.
We all need to revolt against NJ tyrrany. Thanks
March 19th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
if it is a 22 caliber pellet and at least 1200 fps, then yes, but 1000 fps, no
March 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
No. Its not just the feet per second, its also the bullet weight and shape that affects energy transfer and how much damage is done to the target.
March 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
It’s very true. A .22 has a lot more FPS than a .22 and doesn’t pack near the punch a pellet gun can make. But still have to be carefull with either bc both can be harmfull.
March 19th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
no. a 1000 fps .22 cal pellet gun outputs at most 10 ft-lb energy. my .22LR with the weakest subsonic ammo at 710 fps outputs 34 ft-lb energy. so pellet guns even shooting 1000 fps is not more powerful than my .22LR rifle with the weakest ammo.
March 19th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
no no no
March 19th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Not even close… 1,000 fps pellet rifle is about 16 ft lbs muzzle energy
“Standard” velocity .22 rounds are in excess of 100 ft lbs.
Aguila Super Colibri .22 LR rounds only deliver 11 ft lbs energy. They have difficulty making out of longer 22 rifle barrels. They are actually recommended for pistols. RWS makes even lower powered rounds.
Still it is hardly a “child’s toy”.
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