i need a good rifle that will work for practice shooting, but be good for hunting. help?
ByI live in California, but am moving to Alaska. I would like to buy a good rifle that i can go hunting with, but will also support decent target practice at the range without blowing my arm off with recoil.
I know that alot of recoil depends on the grain load of a bullet.. but i still dont completely understand this process to be honest. (if you feel like explaining this thatd be great, if not thats cool too.)
i was hoping for a 30-06 is this decent for deer, moose, bear? also just fyi.. when i was 13 or so i shot a R P 375 H&H MAG bullet and it kicked my A$$ from what i remember.. is a 30-06 going to be the same?
okay so id use a 150 load for target practice, but a 200 or 220 load for hunting.. is this overkill for deer or moose?

4 Comments
July 29th, 2010 at 4:17 am
Lets start with how recoil works:
Imagine a Ford sedan. Next to it is a large pickup truck. They both run on gasoline. It will take a lot less energy for the sedan to reach 60 mph, while it will take much more energy for the truck to reach the same speed. That same principle applies to bullets. The heavier the bullet, the more energy it takes to push it at the same speed as a lighter one, and that energy is felt in recoil.
For your second question, a 30-06 is an excellent round for all game in North America. It has a range from 150 grain to 220 grain, offering a wide variety of uses. And whoah! Nobody in their right mind would let a 13 year old shoot a .375 H&H Magnum. That is a very high recoiling round, even I don’t enjoy shooting it. A 30-06 with 150 grain bullets should kick roughly half of a 300 grain round from a .375. If you find yourself to be a little recoil sensitive, get a wood stock. The heavier the gun, the more counterweight against the recoil, resulting in less felt kick. Then again, you don’t want to be hauling a 13lb gun around while hunting, so finding something in the middle is a good idea.
Good luck on your first hunt!
(A little advice, Alaska has a lot more animals to worry about than in california. If you find yourself doing OK with the 30-06, you might want to step it up to a larger caliber for a bigger “insurance policy”, or at least get comfortable with a good handgun caliber for a sidearm.)
EDIT::
150 grain: Target shooting, deer
165 grain: Target, deer, elk
180 grain: elk, moose
200 grain: elk, moose, bear
220 grain: elk, moose, bear
I personally have had good luck with 180 grain XP3.
These will be expensive to shoot, but the accuracy and stopping power is unreal. Last year I dropped my elk with the XP3 180 grain at 580 yards, which is really pushing it for the 30-06.
July 29th, 2010 at 4:35 am
If you don’t already have one, get yourself a .22 rifle for target practice. Ammo is dirt cheap, so you won’t feel bad about shooting the thousands of rounds it’ll take to become a good shot… you can’t rely on your 30-06 for target practice, you’re gonna go broke.
July 29th, 2010 at 4:56 am
The 30-06 is the most common hunting round in the world.
It has the most available bullet weights of any commercial cartridge, and is suitable for ANY north american game animal.
The recoil will be considerably LESS than a 375 H&H Mag. You can ALSO get a rifle with a good recoil pad on the butt of the stock, which will help.
The most commonly used bullet weights are:
150gr – target, deer, elk (maybe)
180gr – deer, elk, bear (maybe)
220gr – elk, moose, bear
The “maybe” means AT REASONABLE ranges, like 200 yards or less, with GOOD bullet placement.
Since EACH bullet weight will fire to a different “zero point” you need to fire the bullet you will use hunting when getting ready to hunt; but for learning HOW IT SHOOTS, and general practice/targets, the 150gr is the best ALL AROUND load in MOST rifles. (Some rifles will NOT “like” it as well as others.)
Different brands/types of cartridges also will shoot differently.
Practice for hunting, AND HUNT, with the same brand/type of cartridge.
July 29th, 2010 at 5:49 am
30-06 will not kick as hard as a .375. and ammunition is readily available everywhere for the 30-06. many different sized bullets, and 150 grains would be plenty for deer, 175-200 for moose, and anything bigger for bear would work just fine. I would also make sure you have a quick follow up shot, incase its a big grizzly that doesnt wanna go down lol.
as for the rifle model a savage 110, remington 700, remington 7600, savage 14, savage 12, savage 111, winchester 70, and many more. talk to a local gunshop owner and he will point you in the right direction