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	<title>Comments on: Hunting white tail dear in New York with a .223 what do ya&#8217; think?</title>
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		<title>By: CoyoteHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoyoteHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion a .223 is to small for deer.  I would go with a bigger round that has more knockdown power like a .270. A .223 has around 1250 ft. lb at the muzzle and a .270 has around 2700 ft. lbs.  I have been shooting a .270 for many years and love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion a .223 is to small for deer.  I would go with a bigger round that has more knockdown power like a .270. A .223 has around 1250 ft. lb at the muzzle and a .270 has around 2700 ft. lbs.  I have been shooting a .270 for many years and love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Irv S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irv S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N.Y.S. deer hunting is mostly &#039;woods&#039; hunting, and sight lines 
are short and likely to be through brush.
223 is more a varmint cartridge, and marginal for deer.
If you do use it, be sure to use a heavier &#039;premium&#039; bullet to 
be assured of enough penetration.
You might want to think about throwing a heavier bullet.
I use a 30-30 or 7x57 in N.Y.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N.Y.S. deer hunting is mostly &#8216;woods&#8217; hunting, and sight lines<br />
are short and likely to be through brush.<br />
223 is more a varmint cartridge, and marginal for deer.<br />
If you do use it, be sure to use a heavier &#8216;premium&#8217; bullet to<br />
be assured of enough penetration.<br />
You might want to think about throwing a heavier bullet.<br />
I use a 30-30 or 7&#215;57 in N.Y.</p>
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		<title>By: dca2003311@yahoo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>dca2003311@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make sure its a acceptable legal caliber to hunt Deer with in your State first.* A 243 Winchester is a better choice.* The 223 is capable of harvesting Deer providing you aim and hit it in the Heart &amp; Lung area only.* Do not ever shoot for the head or neck.* Maximum effective range of the 223 caliber when hunting deer is 200 yards.* Maximum effective range of the 243 Winchester is between 300 and 375 yards.* I have harvested Whitetail deer with a 218 Bee, and 222 cleanly, efficiently, and humanely .* Its not always about the size of the caliber, its what you can do with the bullet that it does shoot that really matters.* When you hit them in the Heart &amp; Lung area you don&#039;t have no problems.*~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sure its a acceptable legal caliber to hunt Deer with in your State first.* A 243 Winchester is a better choice.* The 223 is capable of harvesting Deer providing you aim and hit it in the Heart &#038; Lung area only.* Do not ever shoot for the head or neck.* Maximum effective range of the 223 caliber when hunting deer is 200 yards.* Maximum effective range of the 243 Winchester is between 300 and 375 yards.* I have harvested Whitetail deer with a 218 Bee, and 222 cleanly, efficiently, and humanely .* Its not always about the size of the caliber, its what you can do with the bullet that it does shoot that really matters.* When you hit them in the Heart &#038; Lung area you don&#8217;t have no problems.*~~</p>
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		<title>By: RUGERIZMISTICNESS Bober hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUGERIZMISTICNESS Bober hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is small, too small. It is also illegal in most places to hunt with a .223.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is small, too small. It is also illegal in most places to hunt with a .223.</p>
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		<title>By: sentinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>sentinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found Anikay has responded to your question and hunts with a .270 winchester and has shot a duck with a .223.
  Anikay has a question about hunting on the website stated that he-she has never hunted and thinks it is a waste of time
  You have a short memory Anikay or just jumped right into the hunting game ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found Anikay has responded to your question and hunts with a .270 winchester and has shot a duck with a .223.<br />
  Anikay has a question about hunting on the website stated that he-she has never hunted and thinks it is a waste of time<br />
  You have a short memory Anikay or just jumped right into the hunting game ?</p>
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		<title>By: ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is possible however everything needs to go in your favor for a clean kill.  You need a clear picture perfect shot, and a tough bullet to reliably and cleanly down a deer with a .223  The problem with this is there are very few .22 bullets out there with the toughness to reliably work on deer sized game.  the large majority of them are either designed for varmints, meaning they are of light construction, and tend to break apart very easily.  Deadly on woodchuck, can be a problem on deer, especially if it strikes bone, there may not be enough energy left to get to the vitals, leaving you with one big mess and a lot of tracking.  The others are either FMJ or target bullets which do not expand, and just punch a narrow little hole through and are generally illegal for most hunting.  You could use something along the lines of a Nosler Partition which is the only one I know off offhand that&#039;s common it might work, if it&#039;s legal in your state, many have a .24/6mm minimum.  As stated in previous posts you would be a lot better off looking for something bigger.  most people won&#039;t hunt deer with anything smaller than a .243 even in areas with no caliber minimum.  Get something along the lines of a .270, .30-06, .243, etc or often some areas will have preferred variants of these such as 7-08, .25-06 etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is possible however everything needs to go in your favor for a clean kill.  You need a clear picture perfect shot, and a tough bullet to reliably and cleanly down a deer with a .223  The problem with this is there are very few .22 bullets out there with the toughness to reliably work on deer sized game.  the large majority of them are either designed for varmints, meaning they are of light construction, and tend to break apart very easily.  Deadly on woodchuck, can be a problem on deer, especially if it strikes bone, there may not be enough energy left to get to the vitals, leaving you with one big mess and a lot of tracking.  The others are either FMJ or target bullets which do not expand, and just punch a narrow little hole through and are generally illegal for most hunting.  You could use something along the lines of a Nosler Partition which is the only one I know off offhand that&#8217;s common it might work, if it&#8217;s legal in your state, many have a .24/6mm minimum.  As stated in previous posts you would be a lot better off looking for something bigger.  most people won&#8217;t hunt deer with anything smaller than a .243 even in areas with no caliber minimum.  Get something along the lines of a .270, .30-06, .243, etc or often some areas will have preferred variants of these such as 7-08, .25-06 etc</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in Idaho, I knew several people who took mule deer with
.223&#039;s and I hunted one day with my .222 where I knew the shot would be 
standing at 50 yds. or less, but saw no deer. But just because you can doesn&#039;t mean you should. Ideally using heavy bullets with picturebook
broadside shots and surgical accuracy, it is possible to take down a deer
with .22 caliber bullets.  But it is much more sporting and feasible to use
a 6mm or larger bullet, 100 grains in weight or heavier, with at least
2000 foot pounds of muzzle energy. And my other deer rifle was a 7mm
Rem Mag. Go with the Savage Hunter, but 6mm-.30 cal. in chambering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in Idaho, I knew several people who took mule deer with<br />
.223&#8242;s and I hunted one day with my .222 where I knew the shot would be<br />
standing at 50 yds. or less, but saw no deer. But just because you can doesn&#8217;t mean you should. Ideally using heavy bullets with picturebook<br />
broadside shots and surgical accuracy, it is possible to take down a deer<br />
with .22 caliber bullets.  But it is much more sporting and feasible to use<br />
a 6mm or larger bullet, 100 grains in weight or heavier, with at least<br />
2000 foot pounds of muzzle energy. And my other deer rifle was a 7mm<br />
Rem Mag. Go with the Savage Hunter, but 6mm-.30 cal. in chambering.</p>
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		<title>By: ms.hunterboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms.hunterboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>depends on terrain brushy area use a 30-30 or a 243 if its open space and a fairly long shot use a 308 7mm-08 270 or a 30-06</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>depends on terrain brushy area use a 30-30 or a 243 if its open space and a fairly long shot use a 308 7mm-08 270 or a 30-06</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respectfully disagree with everyone.  I shot my first two deer as a youngster with .223 and neither of them were headshots and neither of them ran more than 20 yards before dropping.  I&#039;ve since graduated to a 30-06 but a .223 proved effective.  These were average size Missouri deer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectfully disagree with everyone.  I shot my first two deer as a youngster with .223 and neither of them were headshots and neither of them ran more than 20 yards before dropping.  I&#8217;ve since graduated to a 30-06 but a .223 proved effective.  These were average size Missouri deer.</p>
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		<title>By: .700 nitro</title>
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		<dc:creator>.700 nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.243,270,30-06 are the premo calibers for deer...from smallest to the best.

You really should be using at least a .243 or larger rifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.243,270,30-06 are the premo calibers for deer&#8230;from smallest to the best.</p>
<p>You really should be using at least a .243 or larger rifle.</p>
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